Comments for CMS Critic http://cmscritic.com Content Management System Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:15:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on WordPress 2.8 - What were they thinking? by Bryce Ellis http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-28-what-were-they-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-220 Bryce Ellis Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:51:41 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2198#comment-220 I learned a few years ago to never upgrade to the latest WP version until it's proven to be stable. A few years back I upgraded 15-20 blogs hosted on my server and the upgrade had a bug that allowed mass hacking of WP blogs. Well, I had all my backups. others weren't so lucky. I learned a few years ago to never upgrade to the latest WP version until it's proven to be stable. A few years back I upgraded 15-20 blogs hosted on my server and the upgrade had a bug that allowed mass hacking of WP blogs. Well, I had all my backups. others weren't so lucky.

]]> Comment on WordPress 2.8 - What were they thinking? by Jacob Santos http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-28-what-were-they-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-219 Jacob Santos Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:01:22 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2198#comment-219 I develop an application for Windows, on the next release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?<br><br>I develop an application for Mac OS X, on the next point release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?<br><br>I develop a plugin or theme for Drupal, on its next release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?<br><br>So on and so on.<br><br>Platforms are in a constant state of improvement and changes. Just look at Windows, Mac OS X, Drupal, phpBB, etc. The difference between a paid platform (Windows, Mac OS X, etc) and an free, open source platform is the amount of testers and users. <br><br>It also depends on whether the system is closed or open. For systems where they work on a limited set of hardware or configurations or the users are only going to be using a limited set of hardware or configurations, then the amount and scope of the bugs are going to be different.<br><br>It also depends on your users and their complacency. Users of the other CMSs are going to be more technical users and know how to get around problems. The users for WordPress are in often cases, novices. Therefore to compare a system that is meant to be used with the lowest common denominator verses something that requires you to be this tall to ride is not really being fair.<br><br>As others have said, bugs are found in all systems and platforms. They are an constant that will continue unless you are the guy who writes the "hello world" examples. More beyond that adds complexity and complexity adds bugs. The more users you add, the more fringe case bugs and user case bugs you are going to find. <br><br>However, more often then not, you find the fringe case bugs after a "stable" release where as the normal use case bugs are found during the normal beta / RC cycle. I develop an application for Windows, on the next release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?

I develop an application for Mac OS X, on the next point release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?

I develop a plugin or theme for Drupal, on its next release, it stops working. Whose fault is it?

So on and so on.

Platforms are in a constant state of improvement and changes. Just look at Windows, Mac OS X, Drupal, phpBB, etc. The difference between a paid platform (Windows, Mac OS X, etc) and an free, open source platform is the amount of testers and users.

It also depends on whether the system is closed or open. For systems where they work on a limited set of hardware or configurations or the users are only going to be using a limited set of hardware or configurations, then the amount and scope of the bugs are going to be different.

It also depends on your users and their complacency. Users of the other CMSs are going to be more technical users and know how to get around problems. The users for WordPress are in often cases, novices. Therefore to compare a system that is meant to be used with the lowest common denominator verses something that requires you to be this tall to ride is not really being fair.

As others have said, bugs are found in all systems and platforms. They are an constant that will continue unless you are the guy who writes the “hello world” examples. More beyond that adds complexity and complexity adds bugs. The more users you add, the more fringe case bugs and user case bugs you are going to find.

However, more often then not, you find the fringe case bugs after a “stable” release where as the normal use case bugs are found during the normal beta / RC cycle.

]]> Comment on WordPress 2.8.1 beta 2 available by Mike Johnston http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-281-beta-2-available/comment-page-1#comment-217 Mike Johnston Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:55:33 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2382#comment-217 Good to know, thanks for the update. Let us know if you experience any issues. Good to know, thanks for the update. Let us know if you experience any issues.

]]> Comment on WordPress 2.8.1 beta 2 available by Michael Aulia http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-281-beta-2-available/comment-page-1#comment-216 Michael Aulia Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:35:58 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2382#comment-216 Just updated my blog to 2.8 Beta 2. No problem detected so far Just updated my blog to 2.8 Beta 2. No problem detected so far

]]> Comment on WordPress based social network software, BuddyPress, has a new release by David Hale http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-based-social-network-software-buddypress-has-a-new-release/comment-page-1#comment-215 David Hale Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:43:26 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2349#comment-215 Great info. The software was pretty good. I checked it out and it worked for me.<br> <br>Keep the good info coming.<br> <br>Chris Moniz<br>VP Marketing, Internet Marketing Professor<br><a href="http://www.drdavehaleonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.drdavehaleonline.com</a> Great info. The software was pretty good. I checked it out and it worked for me.

Keep the good info coming.

Chris Moniz
VP Marketing, Internet Marketing Professor
http://www.drdavehaleonline.com

]]> Comment on New alpha version of upcoming Joomla! 1.6 by S. Gharavi http://cmscritic.com/new-alpha-version-of-upcoming-joomla-16/comment-page-1#comment-213 S. Gharavi Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:41:37 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2320#comment-213 Thanks, SG Thanks,
SG

]]> Comment on WordPress 2.8 - What were they thinking? by Mike Johnston http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-28-what-were-they-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-212 Mike Johnston Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:01:46 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2198#comment-212 I respectfully disagree Justin. Just like any other cms or platform, we expect the supplier to provide suitable products. I didn't say people should not test their releases before upgrading but i did say they should not be required to beta test before upgrading. Also, keep in mind that people on WordPress.com are simply upgraded without option. It is both WordPress and Automattics responsibility.. to say otherwise is simply wrong and would indicate that Automattic has no tie-in to either one.. which is also incorrect. I respectfully disagree Justin. Just like any other cms or platform, we expect the supplier to provide suitable products.

I didn’t say people should not test their releases before upgrading but i did say they should not be required to beta test before upgrading. Also, keep in mind that people on WordPress.com are simply upgraded without option.

It is both WordPress and Automattics responsibility.. to say otherwise is simply wrong and would indicate that Automattic has no tie-in to either one.. which is also incorrect.

]]> Comment on WordPress 2.8 - What were they thinking? by Mike Johnston http://cmscritic.com/wordpress-28-what-were-they-thinking/comment-page-1#comment-211 Mike Johnston Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:59:56 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2198#comment-211 Otto - As I stated earlier, I disagree.. and this wasn't a review.. it was an article stating a fact.. there are too many issues. If you disagree, google wordpress 2.8 issues or check their forums. I appreciate everyone jumping to their defense but I still stand by the statement that it was released to soon with too many issues. Thanks for your comments, however. Otto - As I stated earlier, I disagree.. and this wasn’t a review.. it was an article stating a fact.. there are too many issues. If you disagree, google wordpress 2.8 issues or check their forums.

I appreciate everyone jumping to their defense but I still stand by the statement that it was released to soon with too many issues.

Thanks for your comments, however.

]]> Comment on TypePublish makes publishing content easy by Mike Johnston http://cmscritic.com/typepublish-makes-publishing-content-easy/comment-page-1#comment-199 Mike Johnston Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:38:20 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2322#comment-199 Agreed. It looks and IS very sweet. Agreed. It looks and IS very sweet.

]]> Comment on TypePublish makes publishing content easy by b.lew http://cmscritic.com/typepublish-makes-publishing-content-easy/comment-page-1#comment-198 b.lew Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:58:38 +0000 http://cmscritic.com/?p=2322#comment-198 do we have a better system than WP here?!? has potential! great find! do we have a better system than WP here?!? has potential! great find!

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